barebones communication

… a blog on communication

you need to be able to cut through soft tissue to get to the bare bones

I have been told, off blog, that the barebones communication blog is difficult. So, I am going to deal with that in this post.

Do I agree that this blog is difficult? Yes, in certain respects I do. I takes a portion of work to grasp the content of the terms used on the blog. For instance terms like denotation, connotation, phenomenology, gestalt psychology, and the like. None of these are self explaining, and my task is only to point to  the “headlines” of these areas. You need to do the real hard work here by following the links suggested and elaborate and expand on the “headlines”.

But is it well worth the effort, in my humble opinion. That is if you have any intention at all of understanding the basic stuff about how communication works, and how pretty simple tools, in a short time, can make you a better analyst of acts of communication e.g pictures, other images, texts, et cetera, and constructer of such acts – writing a text, taking a picture, composing an add, et cetera.

That said, I will also argue that the understanding of the content of the this blog it not at all difficult once you grab the structure of the blog and the reasons why for this structure. But you have work with it, and do your training as we all do. This is the reason why one of the themes on the blog is simple notebook post: I set the stage and you are asked to act it out.

The blog project is not very different from what you find in other areas of serious work within an area. Within any area, in fact, if you want to do it right or at least try do to it right. Take the surgeon that are to operate on living persons. Could be on your own body. Or mine. I would very much appreciate, thank you,  that he had the proper education, and clinical training, before he started swinging his knife on my tissue. It does not really bother me that part of his training has been digging into dead meat of human bodies to acquire that expertise. He knows (or some do at least) beforehand where the heart is, and how it works; he know how my lungs function, and how they work; he are able to distinguish one leg from the other. In other words; I expect him to know his craft and do the right thing when I am laying there flat out on the table.

It is not very different from you you should expect from a communication craftsman: he should know what he is doing.

So here is what my intentions are in this post.

1. I will list some reasons why this blog probably could be considered difficult.

2. I will, once more, explain the structure of the blog, and the reasons why.

3. I will argue why this blog, then, is not at all difficult to follow or to grasp.

4. I will argue that you need to do your homework, PARTICULARLY, if you are in the communication business.

Here we go then:

1. Reasons why this blog probably could be considered difficult.

The reasons are obvious:

1.1 The blog uses uncommon words.

I am sure that many find terms like denotation, connotation, gestalt factors, phenomenology, semiology rather uncommon in a blog on operational communication. The reasons for this is that these terms mostly are know from academic circles and seldom are used for operational purposes. I don’t understand why, but this seems to the way it is.

It is my opinion that “terms terminate”. By this I mean, that if you don’t know the term and are able to use it you will not understand the “problem” that it suggests or describes. I would, for instance, have a hard time explaining, and even look for connotations in a photograph, a text or a speech without knowing the word “connotation”. So, without the “right” words my consciousness and horizon of understanding are limited.

And so are yours.

Terms terminate, but  they also expand. That is the crucial point here. More differentiated words, more opportunities for interpretation and understanding. And in communication you are better off the more you have. You simply get new ways of looking at, and grasping things.

1.2 The blog uses scientific resources that are not among the most common.

Yes it does. Some of the resources that this blogs draws on, are simply originally written in such a language that you will find it a nightmare. This particularly goes for the phenomenology of Edmund Husserl. So, if you are not really interested, and have a lifetime to invest it is a good thing to stick to clever interpretations. You can uses Husserl for more special research if that it what you aim at.

Besides, did some of his writing are still unpublished, you you will have a hard time knowing what Husserl “really meant”. And there are schools of interpretations, as well. The good thing is that Husserl urges you do do you own phenomenological investigations, and that is really what phenomenology is all about: Doing your own thing bases on a/the phenomenological method, which of course require that you know the basics.

1.3 The blog combines there words and resources in a way that is new and original.

It does not make it easier that barebones communications tries to combine resources from quite different quarters, does it? There is, you might think, a long way from Ogilvy to Barthes, but they both have that in common that they seriously try to master parts of communication. They do even better doing so hand in hand. Ogilvy tries to master the art of advertising, Barthes tries to master the art of photographs.

It just so happens that photographs constitute a large part of most advertising, so Ogilvy benefits from Barthes. And the other way around. Who was it, by the way, who said about creative advertising people, that we have a lot of knowledge about what work and do not work in advertising? That was David Ogilvy many years ago, and his statement still stands. More so than ever. And he continued: creative people must learn to use that knowledge.

Good communication walk on three legs: creativity, experience and science. Pity so often this seems to be forgotten.

1.4 The blog combines resources with themes.

It is important that you distinguish resources from themes. Resources are where the things come from, themes are how they are treated in this blog. Resources are pretty fixed, but themes can change. I can e.g. chose to have resources materialise in more themes later on. For the moment, however, resources and themes are pretty congruent apart from the fact the notebook, and pitstop posts are not connected to any resources in particular. 

I realise, that this does not exactly make the intuitive reading and the understanding of the blog more easy. But now you know, and once you have adapted to it, it should not be too burdensome.

1.5 The blog used open ended techniques. 

Yes, definitely, it would be nice if every question had a fixed answer, and every challenge had the same solution? (Un)fortunately not so. If you work with the human sciences, or with human issues like communication, you need to get to terms with ambiguity. Therefore, barebones communication, often uses an open ended structure. Questions are asked, issues indicated, but you will not necessarily find an answer to the question, or a closure to the indication. 

If you have looking for definite answers, you are probably reading the wrong blog. Bare bones are more than one.

Handling an area with this kind of human uncertainty can pose a severe problem for many. On the other hand, being able to ask the right questions takes you more than half way to a reasonable answer. Think about.

I am sorry about this, but this uncertainty is part of the human predicament.. But, of course, some answers are better than others, but you need to bring the answer yourself. You need to get used to open ended processes. Troublesome, eh? Only make sure, that you join the process coming forward with the best and most reasonable “answers” :-) . Science, experience and brilliant ideas are good pals in this process. Getting you closer to the truth.

Is there any reason, you think, that this blog should not reflect this human predicament?

1.6 The blog uses an indirect language.

There is a gap between how good, efficient advertising work and the way of this blog. Reason why? This blog is not an add and you don’t want to value it on the same principles.

I use a good portion of indirect language, for instance in  the heading of this post. Could this have been done otherwise, to promote a quicker understanding of the points in question? Yes, I think it could.

I could definitely, have used a more direct language, but that would have eliminated what for me is one of the more interesting parts of communication: the human predicament (once more), and the excitement of not knowing exactly where you end up when you go out for a walk :-) There is also the teasing part of indirect language, that I enjoy. Sorry, my human predicament. Add to that a general fascination with what you can do with language.

Combine these things, and it definitely does not make thing easier. I admit.

1.7 The unfolding of themes, and resources do not come in a chronological order.

The  posts belonging to specific themes are not presented in a chronological order. First of all this a matter of convenience for me writing them. I don’t have to stick to a theme, but can load posts from different themes along the way. Hoping that I can glue posts to a specific theme by tagging them properly. Using this style I am able to “multitask” several themes at the same time.

I am well aware that this process is demanding for the reader, who have to pull in some extra weight to find our what is going on the barebones blog.

And besides this is a blog and not a book. The former is a lot more flexible than the latter. It also gives me the opportunity to go back and correct language as well as to make adjustments to whole posts, or series of posts, which for me is a good thing, as I sometimes post drafts later to be corrected.

The are plenty of places where you can pick up the themes if you want to read theme posts in continuity. Use the tag cloud, or one of the shortcuts to themes that the blog offers. Here is one window that you can use.

1.8 You, as a blog reader, are asked to take part in the unfolding of the blog.

It is, of course, deliberately that I ask the blog reader to do some thinking of their own. Who knows, it might come in handy some day :-) .

Two of the themes are barebones notebook, and barebones pitstops. The notebook themes simply asks the reader to participate in more or less simple exercises bases on one or more blog posts. The pitstops are much more tricky since they simply bring you a quote and you have, as a reader, to elaborate on that on your own. The first one is pretty easy, the latter rather difficult if you are not used to abstract thinking. 

Is simply ask you to find your own way. A challenge not unknown from the real world.

You’ll find examples on both notebook exercises, and pistops by hitting the proper tags in the tag cloud. Go for it.

1.9 The blog is thematically unfolding as it goes along.

Yes, this is true, and I am not unaware that this might be an issue of some disturbance too.

From the start I had no clear idea of how this blog was going to develop. Let me rephrase this: maybe I had a more or less clear idea where I wanted to end up with the barebones blog, but not in such a way that I beforehand had a plan for what stones I has to step along the way. I still am not able to map future stepping stones.

Why is this? Well, having a precise agenda for each post would be asking me to complete the book before I ventured on the blog. I could have done that, but given such a task  I am quite sure that we would not even have a blog on barebones communication today. And certainly not a book. Working with an open end like this, means that we at least have a barebones communication blog under construction. For what that is worth.

The blog format suits me well. I can do bits and pieces whenever I want to or feel like it. And the order of theme posts could be “random” as long as I string themes together by tagging each post properly. For me this a a grand way of publishing.

So then, I am very exited to see where this blog ends up. Who knows, there might even be a book :-) . Some day.

2.0 The blog  uses photographs to illustrate themes, resources and arguments.

At first I had picture in the posts simply because I have pictures. Lots of them. And to escape the monotony of the mere written word, I thoughts I could put them to some use here.

Along the way it ocurred to me that I could use the photographs in a more clever way than as mere illustrations to break the monotony of the text (and the blog visuals). As a picture speaks a thousand words I thought I could use them more intelligently and even cut down on some of the words. So, that us what I tried to do. I see now that this blog could hardly have been done without the pictures. Particularly in the posts that talks about visuals. I hope I succeeded with this.

On the other hand, I know that some people simply don’t have the ability to read pictures. They don’t intuitively see a composition, the don’t see colours or colour casts, and they have basically no idea if a picture is a well composed and precise message, or not. For people that are not good readers of pictures, the use of pictures in this blog might come as an obstacle for understanding. 

I am sorry if this is the case for some, but there is really not much I can do about it.

(This post is to be continued … The title may even change along the way :-) . In the mean time please take a good look at the picture below, and try to figure out how it works in terms of barebones themes and/or resources. Elaborate on what the two people really are checking in this picture? Using the barebones toolbox, I would look for connotations in the shot, and gestalt closure. You could also elaborate on how well the shot communicate in terms of One Unified Impression. Just as a starter).

CheckPoint Charlie

CheckPoint Charlie, Berlin 2006. Copyright Knut Skjærven.

December 21, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | barebones communication, barebones notebook, barebones pitstop, resources, toolbox | , , , , , , , , | No Comments Yet

poles apart (notebook)

Hi there

I am sure that this picture is pretty easy to decompose in terms of gestalt factors. Proximity and similarity could be some of the factors used for such a decomposition.

But, are there other striking features in this image that you would like to point to? That makes you want to take a closer look?

Be my guest :-)  

Amalienborg, Copenhagen, Denmark.  Man in Window. 

More on barebones notebook.   

 

February 3, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | notebook | , , | No Comments Yet

Wertheimer would have loved this one, too! (barebones notebook)

It is late Saturday the last weekend of January 2008.

And I really think that Wertheimer would have loved this one too. I am sure Barthes would.

Reasons why? You tell me :-)Go here

BTW, this is shot outside Hotel Churchill in Dover, UK, April 2007. There is a tiny beach there.

Good Curves.

 

January 26, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | barebones notebook | , , , | No Comments Yet

nostalgie rundfahrt (barebones notebook 07)

It is really good that I have all these pictures, right :-) . Since they all speak more than a thousands words.

Each.

Well I enjoy it, and if you too participate in the initial stages of the barebones community building, you will as well :-) .

So here is another notebook brief for you. The white bus in Berlin. Shot this August.

White Bus in Berlin, August 2007 

I could ask you how this fit will a couple of gestalt factors, but that would be too easy. Obviously both proximity and similarity are at work here, as the two most dominant factors. Nearness and similarity of objects have me perceive this picture as a picture of two groups of people (not six individuals): one group upstairs and another group downstairs.

Let’s however make this notebook brief a bit more interesting by pointing to two levels of closure potent in the image. Do you remember, that I talked about a physical closure and a mental closure in the post on gestalt closure.

Closure is, in a quick word, the human capacity to perceive a bit more than you actually get. The whole is more than the sum of its physically given parts.  This is the gestalt basic.

Now, the picture that you find in this post is a pretty complete one. There are no blank spots or areas. Things that you need to fill in to comprehend them. You should be able to recognize, at first glance, what the picture is all about.

On the other hand, there are still things “missing” in the picture. Let me point to a few:  you don’t see the bodies of the talking heads on the bus, and you don’t see the whole bus. Yet, that is what you perceive; people with intact bodies, and a bus that will certainly drive away if the driver tends to it.  Your are not in doubt about these things.

So for reason that will be clear in future posts, I will introduce two additional layers within the closure concept. These are layers 2 and 3 below.

1) Closure, as the capacity to mentally close figures where visual information is actually lacking (as in the example with the dog in the blog post on closure). This is the gestalt original. 

Then, let me add some layers to this: 

2) Closure, as the capacity to mentally close figures where the visual information is actually hidden or cropped away (as the bodies of the talking heads or the parts of the bus that are not actually there).

3) Closure, as the capacity to mentally elaborate on the context of the actual visual stimuli. You clearly have a notion of what these people are doing on that bus, don’t you? And you have an idea of how they are going to spend the next hours, haven’t you? You even may have an idea of why these guys are in Berlin in the first place? How will you close this open context and continue the story?

It does not really matter how you close it. The important thing is that you have the ability to close it. Any way you want :-) . Remember the last pitstop. I do :-) .

So much for the nostalgische rundfahrt, apart from that tiny, but important thing, that what I just did was to link a gestalt factor to that popular idea of telling a story, as a communication means.  That passport to success, would you believe it? I think they call it storytelling, right? :-) .

I also introduced another gestalt factor: the factor of experience or habit

More on this later, so stay tuned to a barebones blog near you.

And, sorry for taking all the notes myself.  I will make up for it :-) .

January 21, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | barebones notebook, resources | , , , , , , , , | No Comments Yet

the very basic barebones resource diagram

This is an actual mind print.
It is not a visualization of the barebones. It is, however, a visualization of the barebones communication project.
As you see in the illustration, phenomenology play a special role. So do hermeneutics. Phenomenology is first and foremost a method of investigation. Hermeneutics are its first born child. (There will, of course, be much more about this later).
Phenomenology investigates into the conditions for the possible, e.g. what are the perceptual layers, and constituents that are needed to be present for perception to occur. These conditions could be called hermeneutics, or the universal filtering of the world.
Obviously we ask very basic questions here. Some call it philosophy. Some say ontology.
The good thing is, that if we can provoke some answers, we will be able to close in on the barebones of communication. The very basics.
Basic barebones diagram 01
Gestalt psychology, naturalistic psychology, semiology or and semiotics, and the experiential area, not to forget, operates within the conditions for the possible. They are regional scientific operations, and results, that in detail open up the area of communication. Phenomenology and hermeneutics, on the other hand, are universals.
Find this a bit obscure? Don’t, because it isn’t. Unless you want it to be problematic. Just take a look a the illustration above. That is the ways it works with barebones :-) .
Do you know what Edmund Husserl called his type of phenomenological investigation? He called it radical empiricism. Husserl used this notion at about the same it was used by the American philosopher William James.
Husserl also talks about going zu den the Sachen selbst.  Or you could say: to the bare bones.
Get the idea :-) .
Cheers

January 16, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | hermeneutics, phenomenology, resources, semiology | , , , , , , , | No Comments Yet

Gestalt Factor: The Good Curve


More on gestalt factors. In our context, we are now on the fifth factor.
 
In his article Wertheimer has just explained the condition for The Factor of Closure, or the tendendy to perceive unfinished materiel as being more completed, than is actually is.
 
He continues: “It is not true, however, that closure is necessarily the dominant Factor in all cases which satiesfy  the conditions. In Fig 23, for example, it is not three self-enclosed areas but rather The Factor of the “Good Curce” which predominates”.
 
Figure 23 in Wertheimers book, is a figure somewhat similar to this one. 
 
 Figure of Good Curve.
 
The figure contains three fully drawn “self-enclosed areas”, but none of these seems to be dominant. Much more is it the diagonal curve that we perceive. This is the factor of the good curve, then. Wertheimer talks about “the influence of a tendency towards the “good” gestalt”. It is the good curve that holds this figure together. 
 
Not that complicated, right? 
 
For Wertheimer’s exact wording on the gestalt factors including his original drawings, you could go here.  I have the online article from from an internet resource developed by Christoffer D. Green for York University in Toronto, Canada. It is the same article that I have been referring to all along. I just found it on the net the yesterday. So, go read the original.
 
To illustrate the good curve I have two pictures. The first one shot at Potsdamer Platz, Berlin, Germany in August last summer. It is from the inside of Sony Center.
 
The second one is shot at Louisiana Art Museum at Humlebæk north of Copenhagen in Denmark. Shot some years back. The curve aspect in both pictures is pretty obvious, so let me just accompany each picture with a few words. Very few words.
 
Good Curve: Berlin. 
 
 Potsdamer Platz, berlin 2007.
 
To me, anyway, it is pretty obvious that what holds this impression together is the curve of the Sony Center’s beautiful glass roof. It dominates this picture. Everything else is subordinate to the dominant curve.  As in Wertheimer’s example, the picture contains enclosed areas: the glass buildings, but in this lay-out they clearly take on a minor role. (Please let me know if you disagree on this).
 
For those interested in photography, I should mention that this image is shot with a 16 mm Hologon lens. Famous stuff, actually.
 
 
Good Curve: Copenhagen. 
 
 Glass House Louisiana Art Museum, Copenhagen, Denmark.
 
Copenhagen good curve.
 
Maybe not that predominant as the Sony Center glass roof, but all the same. One of the items holding this picture together, is the glass cylinder in the middle of the exhibition room. Please notice, that in terms of physical dimensions , the cylinder is not even the major object in the picture. The walls takes up more space. Nevertheless it is the glass cylinder, the good curve, that perceptually steal the show.
 
No, this is not the 16 mm Hologon. It is the 21 mm Biogon :-) . Got you.
 
 
How to use:
 
Well, if you have a complicated shot or a drawing or another piece of visual or a layout, that you want to round up as one coherent, controlled unit, simply use a good curve to accomplish that job for you.
 
If you don’t have that ambition, or that need, then don’t.
 
By all means, there are other ways to influence perception, but right now, and here, the talk is about curves. Good curves.
 
And remember, that if you want to have a glance at the gestalt factors so far, go to the tag cloud and hit “gestalt factor”. They are all there.
 
Good luck with this, as well :-)
 

January 14, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | gestalt factor good curve | , , , | No Comments Yet

at the palio (brief 05)

 At The Palio 500

Both gestalt proximity, and gestalt similarity works well here.

I would suggest, that this image would probably be perceived as two groups of two people. Not as four separate people. What is your opinion?

What other gestalt “tricks” have been engaged here? If any? I am sure you have an answer.

Good luck with it :-)

More on barebones notebook

January 13, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | gestalt factor proximity, gestalt factor similarity, resources | , , , , | No Comments Yet

Max Wertheimer Would Have Loved It (brief 04)

Gosh, I must have been preparing for the barebones blog for many years already :-) . Since I have all these pictures that seem to fit the theme.

I just loaded a post on gestalt direction, and while writing it I had this picture in my mind all the time. But I left it for you even if it would have been much easier for me to comment on, than the two pictures I included in the post.

So, it is your turn. Take a crack at it, and tell yourself how this picture illustrates The Factor of Direction. Don’t post a comment for everybody to read unless your are absolutely sure that you want to mingle with the rest of the world. Must easier to stay Web 1.0 :-) . Right?

One photograph coming up. Max Wertheimer would have loved it :-) .

 Long and Winding Road.

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Good luck with it :-)

January 6, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | barebones notebook, gestalt factor direction, resources | , , | No Comments Yet

Gestalt Factor: Direction

Time for another step into the interesting world of gestalt factors.

This is the fourth factor we are dealing with: The Factor of Direction.

Wertheimer says: ” As Figs. (…) also show we are dealing now with a new principle which we may call The Factor of Direction”.

The figures, that he is referring to are simple figures consisting of a straight line or curve (A & C) hit by one, or more, shorter lines or curves e.g. line/curve B. 

 Visual Figures: Main and secondary lines.

gestalt-figure-direction-01-115-112.jpg                                       gestalt-figure-direction-02-150-112.jpg 

The two figures above are similar to some of the simplest figures Wertheimer used in his experiments, hereby indicated that some figures can be more complicated than the ones shown. However they all illustrate the same idea about directionality.

The main line structure is along the longer line A/C. He talks about “good continuation”, “inner coherence” and suggests that some linear structures show good gestalt simply “by its own inner necessity”. 

The shorter lines, B, in both cases above will tend to have secondary role in perceiving visual figures as these.

Wertheimer talks about the unequivocally of such patterns. They are unambiguous, and have a clear direction that is based on what is perceived as the main line structure of a figure.

This is not only the case when straight lines are involves, but it is also valid in curved lines when the longer curves is perceives more dominant than shorter, tangential curves. It seems to be a general phenomenon at work here, thus a gestalt factor

When talking about more complex units than those Wertheimer points to, like for instance photographs or pictures, it seems relevant to talk about perceived lines and perceived direction of a second level. Let’s call this second level directions for impressions. So, let me illustrate this with some pictures.

  

 Second Level Direction: Impression of coherency.

Beach Model 

The coherent line in this image is, in my opinion, the diagonal line from the left hand low corner – the beach line. The horizontal line, which is the other main line in the image, cannot visually compete with the strength of the beach line. The placement of the woman in the continuation of the beach line gives a relaxed, coherent impression. Her facing the horizontal line helps lock up the line structures in the image.

 

 Second Level Direction: Impression of collision.

 Copenhagen Marathon 2007.

The main line in this image is perceived to be the line going vertically from the bottom of the picture to the other end of the tunnel, where the crowd of people are gathered – the tunnel line. The perceived horizontal line, where the three people move, is the secondary line – the crossing line. The inner coherence will be constituted along the tunnel line. As the crossing line is quite strong in thus picture it creates a kind a tension, a conflict in the image. However, as in the former picture, it helps to lock up the picture, that two of the crossing people face the main line and thereby link into that.

The main point with The Factor of Direction is that certain line structures seems to lend themselves to some sort of unambiguity, that ease the perception of them.

Adding more lines, and thereby introducing a more complex visual picture, can stress that ease of perception. Using Wertheimer’s visual figures it is pretty easy to agree on this, but these simple figures rarely exist in our life-world. As seen in the two photographs above, the visual deconstruction of real-life situation will be much more complex and demanding.

Real-life communication, of course, is in terms of complexity closer to the two photographs than to Wertheimer’s clinical experiments. And more demanding. Nothing to do about that, I am afraid :-) .

 

How to use: 

As indicated in the pictures above, you can use the factor of direction in two ways: use it coherently and built on the good continuation, or skip the good continuation to set things, objects, logos, whatever, apart. 

Doing the first thing, you can expect perceptions that are less troublesum for the reader/viewer, than if you go for the second. Dependent on what your aim, or for that matter, what your target or target group is, you will pick your choise.

Does it work for other areas of communication than mere visuals?  Well, you consider e.g. storytelling where you could have one major theme, and more minor themes. Or music? And other areas?

I would say yes, definitely.

Max Wertheimer: ”Laws of Organization in Perceptual Forms” in A Sourcebook of Gestalt Psychology, prepared by Willis D. Ellis,  Routledge & Kegan Paul, Great Britain 1974, page 81 ff. (Library Thing). 

 

January 6, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | gestalt factor, gestalt factor direction, resources | , , , , | No Comments Yet

pitstop 06

“It has long seemed obvious – and is, in fact, the characteristic tone of European science – that “science” means breaking up complexes into their component elements. Isolate the elements, discover their laws, then reassemble them, and the problem is solved. All wholes are reduced to pieces and piecewise relations between pieces.

The fundamental “formula” of the Gestalt theory might be expressed in this way: There are wholes, the behaviour of which is not determined by that of their individual elements, but where the part-processes are themselves determined by the intrinsic nature of the whole. It is the hope of Gestalt theory to determine the nature of such wholes. 

With a formula such as this, one might close, for Gestalt theory is neither more nor less than this”.

Max Wertheimer: ”General Problems, Selection 1, Gestalt Theory” in A Sourcebook of Gestalt Psychology, prepared by Willis D. Ellis,  Routledge & Kegan Paul, Great Britain 1974, page 2. (Library Thing).

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January 4, 2008 Posted by knut skjaerven | barebones pitstop, pitstop, resources | , , , | No Comments Yet